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Old 08-12-2018, 11:49 PM
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Donít get me wrong as I worry about Cleveland and Houston also.
However even though the Sox hold the season series edge over the Yankees including the recent four game sweep, letís not forget at least two things:
1) the Yankees administered two or three poundings again the Sox when
Judge and Sanchez were on the lineup and lit up Price in at least one of those
games if not two.
I distinctly remember a game last year also whee he lasted about an immong.
Yes he did pitch well in the recent four game sweep but questions remain if he can do it again in a playoff game.
And I agree to some extent with Wayne about 2004 shutting
the door on curses, etc.
However 1978/Bucky Dent, 2003/Aaron Boone and all of the heart breaking losses to the Yankees since I started following the Sox in the fifties donít go
away for me even though most of those losses were regular season
losses.
Overall I am a lot more fearful of the Yankees
offense than I am of the likes of Houston and Cleveland.
If Oakland should advance, they are also a big concern because of their offense, and they have already proven they can beat the Sox especially in Oakland this season and last.
ps In fact Oakland is by far the sleeper team in the playoffs
to surprise people should they get there.
And oh yeah-a great comeback win by Cubs!

Yes...great finish

I get what your saying but im on the other side of the fence. I feel elite starting rotations more than offense, As far as the Yanks beating up on Price. They have been doing that to him his entire career. Price is the Yanks bitch
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Old 08-13-2018, 12:03 AM
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Yes...great finish

I get what your saying but im on the other side of the fence. I feel elite starting rotations more than offense, As far as the Yanks beating up on Price. They have been doing that to him his entire career. Price is the Yanks bitch
Imo what is most important is that if and when the Sox lead is clearly insurmountable(probably because of Sept 2011 collapse I am not quite ready to say that yet) that Cora rest people like the Astros did last year in a similar position(that should be easy for Cora to remember for obvious reasons) and completely forget about trying to break regular seasons for wins, which won’t matter much in long term if Sox fail in playoffs.
Imo it is similar to a jockey pacing his horse so that the latter has something left as the finish line approaches.
Judging by what I have seen so far this season, no one has to tell Cora to do this.
ps As far as pitching vs offense goes, I feel that in a given series’s there is no set rule on this-it depends on the series and how it unfolds.

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Old 08-13-2018, 12:07 AM
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Put on ESPN right now!! When they come back from the break they have a special on deGrom as the front runner for CY Young even tho he has a losing record and,... Whats the Mets record ????

LMAO

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Old 08-13-2018, 12:38 AM
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One other food for thought matter reitching vs offense which has always intrigued me:
Take the last series between Sox and Yankees during which Sox swept the series and for the most part they got very good pitching.
The question is how much of the Sox ability to shut down the Yankees including Price was actually due to good pitching as oppposed to the Yankees just being in a slump?
There is probably no way to give a definitive answer on this.
Now obviously this type of thinking doesn’t apply to someone like Sale who has pitched great just about every time out.
However in instances like the example I cited above, imo at times there are questions of demarcation between good pitching and the other team slumping and conversely when a pitching staff is getting lit up by another team and how much of that is due to bad pitching as opposed to the hot bats of the other team.
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Old 08-17-2018, 05:42 PM
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Kinsler activated...batting 6th tonight.

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Old 08-17-2018, 05:47 PM
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:00 AM
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Boston avoided their 1st 4 game losing streak of the season last night. They are the only team in MLB not to have a 4 game losing streak. They have only done that twice before and in both seasons they won the WS.
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:16 AM
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If the Sox win today, it will follow the same pattern as they did the series against Houston, another strong contender, when earlier this season in Houston the Sox lost the first two games only to come back strong and win the next two and get a split in the series.
I see where Sox are almost a 2-1 favorite today-pretty high against Cleveland, but on the other hand Plutko, the Tribe's starter, isn't exactly regarded as Cy Young.

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Old 08-23-2018, 10:39 AM
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I see where Sox are almost a 2-1 favorite today-pretty high against Cleveland, but on the other hand Plutko, the Tribe's starter, isn't exactly regarded as Cy Young.
Price has a 1.35 Era since the All Star break. He is also (10-2) with a 2.24 Era against the Indians. Another reason why the line is high.
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Old 08-23-2018, 11:50 AM
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Price has a 1.35 Era since the All Star break. He is also (10-2) with a 2.24 Era against the Indians. Another reason why the line is high.
Good point re: Price
I wasn't aware that his record and era were that good against Cleveland.
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Old 08-23-2018, 12:04 PM
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A few other nuggets for today …………..

SCHERZER is (9-1) when starting against PHILADELPHIA with an ERA of 2.24 and a WHIP of 0.95

BUMGARNER is (6-0) when starting against NY METS with an ERA of 1.47 and a WHIP of 0.96

HAMELS is (11-1) when starting against CINCINNATI with an ERA of 1.78 and a WHIP of 0.96
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Old 08-23-2018, 12:11 PM
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Sounds like I'm playing a 4 team parlay today lol
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Old 08-23-2018, 12:13 PM
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Sounds like I'm playing a 4 team parlay today lol
You would be going against Nola & deGrom if you do!
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Old 08-23-2018, 12:14 PM
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I played 2 big dogs in Philly & SF and 2 RL plays in Boston and Chicago.
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Old 08-23-2018, 01:56 PM
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You would be going against Nola & deGrom if you do!
Well, I did. Hopefully it works out
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Old 08-23-2018, 03:11 PM
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All I can say so far today anyways is
1) the 2-1 odds on Price were justified.
2) I was way off in the commentary I posted in thread I started first two losses in this series about Sox being in a slump and expressing big worries about Cleveland that they would have difficulty in defeating Cleveland the rest of the way.

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Old 08-23-2018, 03:57 PM
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I played 2 big dogs in Philly & SF and 2 RL plays in Boston and Chicago.
Well the 1st 3 came in. Now I just need the Cubs RL for a (4-0) day!
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Old 08-23-2018, 04:21 PM
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The Red Sox have a plus-225 run differential.

The Royals have a minus-225 run differential.

The Red Sox have 90 wins.

The Royals have 90 losses.
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Old 08-26-2018, 05:13 PM
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Old 08-26-2018, 05:20 PM
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The Red Sox were the last team in MLB to be swept in a series this season.
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Old 09-05-2018, 04:05 PM
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Not sure how it ends but it sure feels like a special season!
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Old 09-05-2018, 06:56 PM
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None of the other four serious contenders in the AL are pushovers that's for sure, and the Sox will have to be at their very best to get by them should they play.
If they do, imo the WS should be a comparative breeze against any of the NL contenders except perhaps the Dodgers, who might offer a bit stiffer challenge.
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Old 09-12-2018, 10:13 PM
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Red Sox win 100 games for the 1st time since 1946
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Old 09-12-2018, 11:53 PM
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Before the season began, I was both hopeful and optimistic that the Sox could battle the Yankees pretty much down to the wire and especially so after they acquired JD to offset Stanton.
I thought both teams would win somewhere in mid to high 90's games.
Never in my wildest expectation did I imagine that the Sox would have 100 wins with 16 games to go and leaving the Yankees trailing in the dust.
Now they will have to prove themselves in the postseason first in the AL against the good teams who have held their own against the Sox this season rather than the dreck teams whom they have completely demolished this season and the main reason they are where they are in the standings with the insurmountable lead they have.
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