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Old 03-07-2019, 07:44 PM
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USA Today saying same as WEEI ... If I have to guess, he doesnt have to appear ...
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Old 03-08-2019, 07:01 AM
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In my humble opinion
just shows how cheap he was

hire a personal massager to come to house
and work out the fringe benefits
If you think Kraft is cheap, then I would love to hear your definition of being philanthropic is. lol

Robert Kraft: New England Patriots owner gives to stem sex trafficking

Philanthropy | A Family of Businesses

For me it is/was a lot more like poor judgment on his part.

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Old 03-08-2019, 08:18 AM
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No this didn't take place in Florida, but perhaps this is the kind of stuff the folks in charge of investigations should be a lot more concerned with rather than if Kraft made an "illegal" deal which would ultimately allow him to ejaculate into tissue paper or napkin.

NYPD cop found guilty of running drug-trafficking operation out of her Bronx apartment
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Old 03-08-2019, 05:50 PM
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Sometimes you want to eat a nice steak,
and sometimes you want fast food.
It was the fast-food equivalent of sex.
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Old 03-08-2019, 05:55 PM
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Sometimes you want to eat a nice steak,
and sometimes you want fast food.
It was the fast-food equivalent of sex.
It was like Taco Bell.
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Old 03-10-2019, 10:20 AM
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Sometimes you want to eat a nice steak,
and sometimes you want fast food.
It was the fast-food equivalent of sex.
I sure hope you don't mean that literally as far as the definition of the word "eat" goes with those whores-that is not "exactly" my idea of a good meal.
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Old 03-16-2019, 12:10 AM
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everyone's tax dollars hard at work. Catching those top criminals.
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Old 03-20-2019, 04:13 PM
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Kraft's attorney has filed a protective order to keep law enforcement from releasing evidence gathered in the Florida prostitution sting, according to the New York Times.

Attorneys for Kraft and 14 other suspects charged in the prostitution sting filed the motion on Wednesday. Evidence in the case includes video from a hidden camera police placed in the Orchids of Asia Day Spa, and law enforcement have said there is video evidence of Kraft involved in sex acts twice at the spa.

Florida prosecutors reportedly offered to drop charges against Kraft and other men charged in the case. The plea deal would reportedly require them to admit they would have been proven guilty at trial and complete community service, an education course about prostitution, a sexually transmitted diseases screening and pay for some court costs.

It was reported on Wednesday that Kraft will not accept the plea deal.
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Old 03-20-2019, 04:21 PM
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Kraft's attorney has filed a protective order to keep law enforcement from releasing evidence gathered in the Florida prostitution sting, according to the New York Times.

Attorneys for Kraft and 14 other suspects charged in the prostitution sting filed the motion on Wednesday. Evidence in the case includes video from a hidden camera police placed in the Orchids of Asia Day Spa, and law enforcement have said there is video evidence of Kraft involved in sex acts twice at the spa.

Florida prosecutors reportedly offered to drop charges against Kraft and other men charged in the case. The plea deal would reportedly require them to admit they would have been proven guilty at trial and complete community service, an education course about prostitution, a sexually transmitted diseases screening and pay for some court costs.

It was reported on Wednesday that Kraft will not accept the plea deal.
Turning down the deal with the "evidence" they have means he's going to make some serious payoffs (ala d trump style)...Money means less to him than to our potus. The Super rich don't play by the same rules..
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Old 03-24-2019, 08:30 AM
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I agree with this article.
While Kraft and his lawyers took the expedient/evasive way to put a stop to this silly matter, imo in a sense it is cowardice and a cop out.

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Old 03-24-2019, 11:47 AM
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isn't it illegal to videotape someone against his/her will in a private place ?

hidden camera in the spa room?

I am pretty sure the spa owner did not know about it.
what excuses did the police use to enter the room and install a hidden camera.
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Old 03-24-2019, 11:52 AM
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Old 03-30-2019, 11:32 AM
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isn't it illegal to videotape someone against his/her will in a private place ?

hidden camera in the spa room?

I am pretty sure the spa owner did not know about it.
what excuses did the police use to enter the room and install a hidden camera.
It’s called a warrant son
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Old 04-04-2019, 07:43 AM
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Kraft is a fucking idiot. So his not guilty is based on an illegal search of the spa?

Kraft was facing a misdemeanor. He could have said sorry and this would be gone. His case is no clearing his name but rather just a technicality against law enforcement.

There is a bigger case here and that is human trafficking. Let's say Kraft wins this case well now the human trafficking case is in trouble because of illegal surveillance. So Kraft will put a serious case like this in jeopardy because he is fighting a misdemeanor based on a technicality. I hope this makes sense of what I'm trying to say
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Old 04-04-2019, 08:19 AM
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I keep hearing the human trafficking thing is falling apart and i too think Kraft is an idiot, but if they did do it illegally, why wouldn't you play off that? Any defendant in any case would right?
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Old 04-04-2019, 12:05 PM
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Kraft is a fucking idiot. So his not guilty is based on an illegal search of the spa?

Kraft was facing a misdemeanor. He could have said sorry and this would be gone. His case is no clearing his name but rather just a technicality against law enforcement.

There is a bigger case here and that is human trafficking. Let's say Kraft wins this case well now the human trafficking case is in trouble because of illegal surveillance. So Kraft will put a serious case like this in jeopardy because he is fighting a misdemeanor based on a technicality. I hope this makes sense of what I'm trying to say

Kraft's lawyers have accused Jupiter police of misleading the public about human trafficking when this was "low-level prostitution."

The warrant repeatedly refers to prostitution. "Trafficking" is used only once when referring to a similar investigation in another county.
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Old 04-05-2019, 04:15 PM
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Kraft attorneys challenge the way cameras were planted following a fake bomb threat excuse to enter the premises ...

The warrant authorized police to "surreptitiously enter the described location."
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Old 04-29-2019, 01:09 PM
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Thank the lord i never went to that place!!! "High Fiving myself"
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Old 04-29-2019, 02:34 PM
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Judge seals video until his case is tried.

If case goes to trial, the minute a jury is seated, the videos can be released. They are only sealed to preserve his right to a fair trial. If he reaches a deal or state drops charges the videos can also be released.
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Old 04-29-2019, 05:50 PM
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It’s called a warrant son

From post #78
NY Times reporting that a business owner next to the spa said police evacuated it in January under the pretense of a "suspicious package and possible bomb threat", the Times says this could be when they planted their undercover cameras
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Old 04-29-2019, 05:57 PM
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I don't blame Kraft for going to court because I would challenge the way cameras were planted following a fake bomb threat excuse to enter the premises.

Can the police prove beyond reasonable doubt that the girl who "serviced" Kraft

1) was illegally living in the US and was trafficked ?

2) was under-aged

3) was forced to work as a prostitute in the Spa

4) was forced to offer sexual services to Kraft
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Old 04-29-2019, 06:06 PM
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Kraft is a fucking idiot. So his not guilty is based on an illegal search of the spa?

Kraft was facing a misdemeanor. He could have said sorry and this would be gone. His case is no clearing his name but rather just a technicality against law enforcement.

There is a bigger case here and that is human trafficking. Let's say Kraft wins this case well now the human trafficking case is in trouble because of illegal surveillance. So Kraft will put a serious case like this in jeopardy because he is fighting a misdemeanor based on a technicality. I hope this makes sense of what I'm trying to say
Are you serious ?

What exactly is Kraft putting in jeopardy ?
The man's reputation is at stake.
His spa visit is being associated with human trafficking
IF the police were really serious about human trafficking
They would investigate this human trafficking case without publishing the names of the Spa's clients.
why publish the man's name in the newspaper and let everyone know that they have him on video having sex when there is no evidence he supports "human trafficking".

he is a very rich man who can possibly donate some money to help fight human trafficking .
Since when is it a crime to have consensual sex with another adult
assuming that the girl in the video in not under-aged, nor forced to work at the Spa and not forced to offer sexual services.

did Kraft know that the girl was trafficked ?
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Old 05-02-2019, 03:09 AM
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all made up. no billionaire does this ever. there is no tape. its all tabloid propaganda for the idiot sports fan. No, that doesnt mean I like Kraft lol. i'm sick of Pats
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Old 05-13-2019, 04:25 PM
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Judge grants Kraft's motion to suppress video evidence ... State may appeal, but this devastates their case against him.
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Old 05-13-2019, 04:27 PM
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The “human trafficking” accusation was the basis for the video surveillance. Given that there have been no trafficking charges, argument can be made that police over stepped. Never would have gotten clearance for video without that accusation.

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