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Old 04-17-2019, 09:56 AM
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If the Thunder lose the series to Portland, should Donovan be fired?

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Old 04-17-2019, 10:04 AM
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Old 04-17-2019, 01:09 PM
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Why? Thunder is not like years before and so many players got injuries. For me that is nomal business.
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Why? Thunder is not like years before and so many players got injuries. For me that is nomal business.
A team with Russell Westbrook, PG, and Steven Adams should not be bounced in the 1st round. 11 straight road playoff losses. Gotta be the most underachieving teams in the league.
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Old 04-18-2019, 03:01 PM
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Should have been gone last year.....Clearly, a change is needed.
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Old 04-19-2019, 02:10 PM
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A team with Russell Westbrook, PG, and Steven Adams should not be bounced in the 1st round. 11 straight road playoff losses. Gotta be the most underachieving teams in the league.
The problem with the Thunder is they can't shoot, they ranked near the bottom of the league in three point shooting, PG is their only good shooter and he's not 100%. Donovan is a good coach and shouldn't lose his job if they lose to the Blazers
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Old 04-20-2019, 12:24 PM
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As I said that is normal business, Thunder get back with W at home. Both teams are very close and even, can't tell who will win series. Maybe at game 7.
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Old 04-22-2019, 05:30 AM
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:11 AM
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It's not Donovan's fault Paul George is playing with a bad shoulder, it's also not his fault Westbrook is getting outplayed by Lillard. Westbrook is averaging 21 points per game shooting 36% from the field and 30% from three, Lillard is averaging 29 points per game shooting 44% from the field and 46% from three. Throw in the fact that Terrance Ferguson and Jerami Grant aren't good enough to be starters, and I don't know what Donovan's supposed to do. The bottom like is, the Thunder just don't have enough talent, for them to win they need PG and Westbrook to be great every game, that's a tough way to win, if either of them have a bad game, they have little chance to compete. I'm not saying Donovan is a great coach, he's not, but to blame him for the 3-1 deficit is unfair imo
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:23 AM
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I disagree. This team failed miserably last year too. Something needs to change and You are not getting rid of Westbrook or George. Donovan needs to go. They need a fresh voice and a different game plan in that locker room
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:54 AM
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Donovan sucks at making adjustments too. Stotts has schooled him in this series. Portland has come out of the locker room at halftime and won the 3rd qtr in all 4 games and by a total of 30 points (7.5 per). Last night in the 2nd half Portland just killed them with the pick and roll time after time after time after time. It was driving me crazy. Every time they came out to CJ or Lillard outside the 3 point line they would dump it down to a wide open Collins in the lane. He had an easy path to the hoop to shoot or dump off to an open guy. It was driving me crazy.

You sweep this team in 4 regular season meetings and you look lost facing them in the postseason? I don't see Donovan doing anything different and that is a problem. I think it's time for a change.
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:06 AM
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I disagree. This team failed miserably last year too. Something needs to change and You are not getting rid of Westbrook or George. Donovan needs to go. They need a fresh voice and a different game plan in that locker room
What they need is a healthy Paul George, and they need Westbrook to be better than he's been, they also need better players, other than PG, RW, and Adams they have little else, Ferguson and Grant aren't good enough to be starters, and the only good player on their bench is Schroeder, they don't have enough talent. If I were Donovan I might start Schroeder, other than that I don't know what else he's supposed to do. Like I said, their best player is playing with a bad shoulder, and Westbrook can't hit a shot and is getting outplayed by Lillard. I agree that Stotts is a better coach, but I don't blame Donovan for Westbrook getting outplayed and PG for playing hurt.
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:23 AM
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Sorry, not buying the George health factor as an excuse. Is his shoulder bothering him? Sure, but he had 32/10/6 last night and he is averaging 27 ppg in this series. It's not like Portland is loaded with talent either beyond their top 2. OKC had plenty of talent to beat them all 4 times this season but Stotts made adjustments. Donovan has not. Their defense has been horrible in the losses.
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:35 AM
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Sorry, not buying the George health factor as an excuse. Is his shoulder bothering him? Sure, but he had 32/10/6 last night and he is averaging 27 ppg in this series. It's not like Portland is loaded with talent either beyond their top 2. OKC had plenty of talent to beat them all 4 times this season but Stotts made adjustments. Donovan has not. Their defense has been horrible in the losses.
The regular season is completely different from the playoffs, the fact that one team owned another team during the season means little once the postseason starts, and you can talk about their defense, but if Westbrook is shooting 36% from the field and 30% from three, and is getting outplayed by Lillard, the Thunder will have a hard time winning, and PG is playing hurt, his numbers would be that much better if he was healthy
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Stotts beating OKC with the guy Donovan said he can’t play in the playoffs, Enes Kanter. OKC goes 4-0 against Portland with Nurcic in the regular season, but now they look like the worse team? I don’t get it. Something needs to change and we all know Presti it too chicken shit to trade Westbrook, so Donovan has to go!
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:38 AM
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OKC has home court in round 1 last year vs Utah. Both Westbrook & George go OFF in the series and the Thunder lose in 6. It's a fuckin joke and Donovan is a joke.
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What they need is a healthy Paul George, and they need Westbrook to be better than he's been, they also need better players, other than PG, RW, and Adams they have little else, Ferguson and Grant aren't good enough to be starters, and the only good player on their bench is Schroeder, they don't have enough talent. If I were Donovan I might start Schroeder, other than that I don't know what else he's supposed to do. Like I said, their best player is playing with a bad shoulder, and Westbrook can't hit a shot and is getting outplayed by Lillard. I agree that Stotts is a better coach, but I don't blame Donovan for Westbrook getting outplayed and PG for playing hurt.
It sounds like you're making Wayne's case.....Just sayin'
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It sounds like you're making Wayne's case.....Just sayin'
How am I making Wayne's case? OKC has two talented players, two good role players, and that's it, they don't have enough talent. Donovan's best player is playing injured, his second best player can't hit a shot and is being outplayed by his counterpart, they have two guys in their starting lineup who wouldn't be starting for any other playoff team. If these coaches switched teams, Portland would still be leading the series, I don't know how Donovan is responsible for Westbrook going 5-21 last night. Should he give more minutes to fat Raymond Felton, or Nerlens Noel? About the only thing he could do is start Schroder to give them some more shot making, but I don't see how this is Donovan's fault. If they lose tomorrow he might be the scapegoat and lose his job, but that's the nature of the business. BTW, the past two postseasons Portland was swept in the opening round both years, they could have fired Stotts, but didn't
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and PG is playing hurt, his numbers would be that much better if he was healthy
So 32/10/6 isn't good enough? What are you saying? If his shoulder wasn't sore he scores 47 and they win? Come on man. They will take that line from George every day.

Donovan can coach defense too right? There is more to a game than Russ and his FG % and the sore shoulder of George.

This team lost in round 1 two years ago too. In 5 games to Houston. That year they had Russ and Oladipo. Remember him. He had his worst season under Donavan.

And we are really going to compare them to portlands past failures? Lillards may be playing "better" than Russ in the last couple games but the expectations are not even close when you compare Westbrook and George to lillard and Cj. You have 2 guys that finished 1st & 3rd in MVP voting the last 3 years and 2 guys that are constant all stars and all NBA players and probably hall of famer's vs 2 very good guards for Portland. Has CJ ever been an all star player?

I guess we see this situation in okc about as differently as we possibly can. This is the NBA and if you cannot win a playoff series with 2 HOF players in their prime in your starting 5, you suck as a HC.

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So 32/10/6 isn't good enough? What are you saying? If his shoulder wasn't sore he scores 47 and they win? Come on man. They will take that line from George every day.

Donovan can coach defense too right? There is more to a game than Russ and his FG % and the sore shoulder of George.

This team lost in round 1 two years ago too. In 5 games to Houston. That year they had Russ and Oladipo. Remember him. He had his worst season under Donavan.

And we are really going to compare them to portlands past failures? Lillards may be playing "better" than Russ in the last couple games but the expectations are not even close when you compare Westbrook and George to lillard and Cj. You have 2 guys that finished 1st & 3rd in MVP voting the last 3 years and 2 guys that are constant all stars and all NBA players and probably hall of famer's vs 2 very good guards for Portland. Has CJ ever been an all star player?

I guess we see this situation in okc about as differently as we possibly can. This is the NBA [B]and if you cannot win a playoff series with 2 HOF players in [/B]their prime in your starting 5, you suck as a HC.
The problem is one of those HOF players is playing like garbage, if it's Donovan's fault RW can't make a shot outside the paint, and is being outplayed by Lillard, then so be it. In the playoffs you need your star players to play like stars, if RW was playing like Lillard, and Lillard was playing like RW, OKC would be the team up 3-1
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So 32/10/6 isn't good enough? What are you saying? If his shoulder wasn't sore he scores 47 and they win? Come on man. They will take that line from George every day.

Donovan can coach defense too right? There is more to a game than Russ and his FG % and the sore shoulder of George.

This team lost in round 1 two years ago too. In 5 games to Houston. That year they had Russ and Oladipo. Remember him. He had his worst season under Donavan.

And we are really going to compare them to portlands past failures? Lillards may be playing "better" than Russ in the last couple games but the expectations are not even close when you compare Westbrook and George to lillard and Cj. You have 2 guys that finished 1st & 3rd in MVP voting the last 3 years and 2 guys that are constant all stars and all NBA players and probably hall of famer's vs 2 very good guards for Portland. Has CJ ever been an all star player?

I guess we see this situation in okc about as differently as we possibly can. This is the NBA and if you cannot win a playoff series with 2 HOF players in their prime in your starting 5, you suck as a HC.
During the season PG shot 44% from the field and 39% from three, in the series he's shooting 37% from the field and 31% from three, of course I can't say for sure, but I think his shoulder is the reason for the poor shooting. The reason why OKC is down 3-1 has more to do with the poor shooting from their two best players and less to do with Donovan's coaching imo
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Old 04-22-2019, 05:37 PM
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So last year Russ averaged 29/12/8 vs Utah. He shot 40%, 36% from 3

Was that Westbrook's fault too that they lost or someone else? I guess it is okay to lose every year in round 1 if you are the HC in OKC. It will always be blamed on the player who played the worst?
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During the season PG shot 44% from the field and 39% from three, in the series he's shooting 37% from the field and 31% from three, of course I can't say for sure, but I think his shoulder is the reason for the poor shooting. The reason why OKC is down 3-1 has more to do with the poor shooting from their two best players and less to do with Donovan's coaching imo
Maybe Portland is playing good defense. Something OKC is clueless about.
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