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Old 01-20-2021, 01:25 PM
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Dustin Poirier

Anyone think he has a chance or Conor too good?
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Old 01-20-2021, 01:35 PM
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please explain how Connor is too good
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Explain? It was a question.
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Old 01-20-2021, 01:49 PM
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McGregor has looked like shit in 3 of his last 4 fights, the one being a gift of a fight with Cowboy. He's literally in this for a payday. He is fast approaching Anderson Silva territory, if not already there. He doesn't care about W & L anymore. Just $$$
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I kind of like Dustin but Vegas has Conor -300. Makes me wonder if I’m missing something here. He did dominate him in the 1st fight but Dustin is a better fighter now

That was the point of the thread, to see what others think

Does Dustin have a shot or is Conor too good. Would love to hear what NYK and Lord CC think too
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Old 01-20-2021, 04:16 PM
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I kind of like Dustin but Vegas has Conor -300. Makes me wonder if I’m missing something here. He did dominate him in the 1st fight but Dustin is a better fighter now

That was the point of the thread, to see what others think

Does Dustin have a shot or is Conor too good. Would love to hear what NYK and Lord CC think too
For me I will be betting Dustin value is on him as a big dog.
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Old 01-21-2021, 11:09 AM
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I agree with the Dustin Poirier bet. Connor hasn't fought in a few years & is a train wreck at the best of times. There is no way he can be sharp & I feel there is too much value to pass up.
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I agree with the Dustin Poirier bet. Connor hasn't fought in a few years & is a train wreck at the best of times. There is no way he can be sharp & I feel there is too much value to pass up.
he fought almost exactly one year ago
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First things first ... Poirier is a much better version of himself at lightweight. The 2014 fight gets tossed out the window.

Conor is overpriced due to casuals and his loyal fan base hammering him. True line would be around -175 to -200 (opening numbers)

I do disagree he's just looking for a paycheck and approaching Anderson Silva territory. Spider lost 7 of his last 8. Conor will never put himself into that position, losing multiple times in a row, and will never fight into his mid 40's. He's also one win away from a title shot so motivation is there.

McGregor sounds / looks focused and reports / video show he put in a bad ass camp. Also second fight in a row with no bad blood towards his opponent, also not promoting any type of product. No distraction.

Dustin has all the tools to get the job done.

- Durable as hell
- Absorbs significant damage
- Fantastic boxing
- Tremendous ground game (black-belt-jiu-jits with great wrestling)

IMO the main keys here are cage time and ground game. The longer the fight goes, the more advantage for Dustin. The blueprint to beat Conor is crystal clear ... survive the early onslaught, drag him into deep water ... and drown him.

Good chance this fight stays standing and both men bang it out (advantage Conor). Dustin's chances will improve immensely if he attempts / decides to get this thing to the ground.

IMO it's dog or pass. All the value is on Poirier. There is the possibility Conor walks right through him but i'm not risking that chance at such an inflated number.


If you’re bullish on Dustin, imo wait ... you should be able to get him at +300 or better by Saturday.
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Old 01-22-2021, 10:32 AM
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A few big bets have already shown up on Conor McGregor, and his odds are on the move ahead of Saturday's UFC 257 main event that's expected to draw significant betting interest at sportsbooks.

McGregor is a consensus -315 favorite over Dustin Poirier and is attracting the bulk of the action, including a pair of six-figure bets placed in recent days. On Tuesday, FanDuel reported taking a $188,800 bet on McGregor from a customer in New Jersey at -290 odds to win a net $65,103. On Friday, sportsbook operator PointsBet took a $100,000 bet on McGregor at -277 odds. Bookmakers say it's only the beginning.

"Saturday is trending to be our biggest UFC event ever, surpassing UFC 246, when McGregor took out Donald Cerrone," Patrick Eichner, communications director for sportsbook PointsBet, told ESPN.
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First things first ... Poirier is a much better version of himself at lightweight. The 2014 fight gets tossed out the window.

Conor is overpriced due to casuals and his loyal fan base hammering him. True line would be around -175 to -200 (opening numbers)

I do disagree he's just looking for a paycheck and approaching Anderson Silva territory. Spider lost 7 of his last 8. Conor will never put himself into that position, losing multiple times in a row, and will never fight into his mid 40's. He's also one win away from a title shot so motivation is there.

McGregor sounds / looks focused and reports / video show he put in a bad ass camp. Also second fight in a row with no bad blood towards his opponent, also not promoting any type of product. No distraction.

Dustin has all the tools to get the job done.

- Durable as hell
- Absorbs significant damage
- Fantastic boxing
- Tremendous ground game (black-belt-jiu-jits with great wrestling)

IMO the main keys here are cage time and ground game. The longer the fight goes, the more advantage for Dustin. The blueprint to beat Conor is crystal clear ... survive the early onslaught, drag him into deep water ... and drown him.

Good chance this fight stays standing and both men bang it out (advantage Conor). Dustin's chances will improve immensely if he attempts / decides to get this thing to the ground.

IMO it's dog or pass. All the value is on Poirier. There is the possibility Conor walks right through him but i'm not risking that chance at such an inflated number.


If you’re bullish on Dustin, imo wait ... you should be able to get him at +300 or better by Saturday.
Thank you NYK!!! As always thanks for your input.
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Old 01-22-2021, 02:37 PM
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MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view, 10 p.m. ET)

Dustin Poirier (156) vs. Conor McGregor (155)
Michael Chandler (156) vs. Dan Hooker (156)
Joanne Calderwood (126) vs. Jessica Eye (126)
Ottman Azaitar ()* vs. Matt Frevola (155.5)
Amanda Ribas (116) vs. Marina Rodriguez (116)


PRELIMINARY CARD (ESPN, ESPN+, 8 p.m. ET)

Nasrat Haqparast ()**** vs. Arman Tsarukyan (157)**
Antonio Carlos Junior (185) vs. Brad Tavares (185.5)
Sara McMann (135) vs. Julianna Pena (136)
Marcin Prachnio (206) vs. Khalil Rountree (206)***


PRELIMINARY CARD (ESPN+, 6:15 p.m. ET)

Makhmud Muradov (186) vs. Andrew Sanchez (186)
Movsar Evloev (150) vs. Nik Lentz (150)
Amir Albazi (126) vs. Zhalgas Zhumagulov (126)



* Ottman Azaitar did not weigh in and was ruled out of his fight fight vs. Matt Frevola

** Arman Tsarukyan missed lightweight limit by 3 pounds; given one additional hour and missed weight by one pound.

*** Khalil Rountree missed light heavyweight limit by 0.5 pounds on first attempt, but made weight on his second attempt.

**** Nasrat Haqparast did not weigh in and was ruled out of his fight fight vs. Tsarukyan due to illness
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Crazy story regarding Ottman Azaitar's removal because of "health and safety violation."


UFC cut the undefeated lightweight this afternoon. Azaitar attempted to help others enter the UFC’s designated safety zone and bypass covid quarantine measures.

He and his team cut off their wrist bands, gave them to somebody outside the bubble. That guy taped them, showed up with a bag, went into a room, shimmied across four balconies, went in his room dropped the bag off, changed his clothes, and then left. When security tried to stop him, he wouldn’t stop.

Rampant speculation that the bag Ottoman was getting was for a post fight coke binge. This guy has never hidden the fact that he's friendly with some of the most notorious mafia groups operating in Germany.

He's also pretty tight with Arafat Abou-Chaker.

The Abou Chaker clan is an organized crime family that operates protection rackets, drugs and arms trades, as well as the sex trade. Of Palestinian origins, it is believed that there are over 200 extended family members in the crime group, most of whom reside in Lebanon, Denmark, and Germany. Abou Chaker’s crimes are so extensive that the Berlin police department assigned a separate case worker to focus specifically on him.
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I really want to smash Dustin at +250...way too much value there to pass up.
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Guy dominates. Guy has run ins with the law (multiple times). Guy looks like a shell of himself in last few fights. Guy retires. Guy comes out of retirement to fight a guy he has already beaten. Guy hears talk about him being the next action movie star. Guy goes into fight at close to -350 favorite against the guy who he previously beat. Hmmm......
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Guy dominates. Guy has run ins with the law (multiple times). Guy looks like a shell of himself in last few fights. Guy retires. Guy comes out of retirement to fight a guy he has already beaten. Guy hears talk about him being the next action movie star. Guy goes into fight at close to -350 favorite against the guy who he previously beat. Hmmm......
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Future lines ... Dustin still a dog vs. Conor






Decent chance the eventual vacant title bout won't be Poirier/Chandler, it'll be Poirier/McGregor III

At last night's presser Poirier made it pretty clear he doesn’t want to fight Chandler. Said Chandler should fight Oliviera.

He did seem pretty interested in the Conor trilogy. He knows that's the money fight again. Dana can easily sell it saying look at how Conor came back after Nate 1.

Flip side - Nate/Conor III could be next ... Way easier path to victory for Conor. The possibility of back to back loses to Dustin doesn't put him in Spider Silva territory but does put him in Ronda territory.

If i'm Sean Shelby I'd be pushing Gaethje/McGregor ... imo that's the fight to make.

I have almost no interest in Nate vs. Conor again. Nate leaks blood, opens up too easy with all the scar tissue. Doctor stoppage always a possibility.

I'm cool with a Dustin trilogy ... I don't think it will be as one-sided as last night. Conor can easily make the adjustment by returning calf kicks and using that stabbing front kick to keep Dustin at bay.

Time will tell what happens next ...




Odds on Poirier's next opponent:

Michael Chandler 3/2
Charles Oliveira 5/2
Conor McGregor 9/2
Khabib Nurmagomedov 6/1
Nate Diaz 8/1
Justin Gaethje 14/1
Tony Ferguson 14/1



Odds on McGregor's next opponent:

Nate Diaz 2/1
Dustin Poirier 3/1
Justin Gaethje 4/1
Tony Ferguson 6/1
Jorge Masvidal 8/1
Michael Chandler 10/1
Charles Oliveira 12/1
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Future lines ... Dustin still a dog vs. Conor






Decent chance the eventual vacant title bout won't be Poirier/Chandler, it'll be Poirier/McGregor III

At last night's presser Poirier made it pretty clear he doesn’t want to fight Chandler. Said Chandler should fight Oliviera.

He did seem pretty interested in the Conor trilogy. He knows that's the money fight again. Dana can easily sell it saying look at how Conor came back after Nate 1.

Flip side - Nate/Conor III could be next ... Way easier path to victory for Conor. The possibility of back to back loses to Dustin doesn't put him in Spider Silva territory but does put him in Ronda territory.

If i'm Sean Shelby I'd be pushing Gaethje/McGregor ... imo that's the fight to make.

I have almost no interest in Nate vs. Conor again. Nate leaks blood, opens up too easy with all the scar tissue. Doctor stoppage always a possibility.

I'm cool with a Dustin trilogy ... I don't think it will be as one-sided as last night. Conor can easily make the adjustment by returning calf kicks and using that stabbing front kick to keep Dustin at bay.

Time will tell what happens next ...




Odds on Poirier's next opponent:

Michael Chandler 3/2
Charles Oliveira 5/2
Conor McGregor 9/2
Khabib Nurmagomedov 6/1
Nate Diaz 8/1
Justin Gaethje 14/1
Tony Ferguson 14/1



Odds on McGregor's next opponent:

Nate Diaz 2/1
Dustin Poirier 3/1
Justin Gaethje 4/1
Tony Ferguson 6/1
Jorge Masvidal 8/1
Michael Chandler 10/1
Charles Oliveira 12/1


Dana says they are targeting Poirier vs. McGregor III for July

Dustin was offered a shot at the lightweight title and decided to pursue the Conor rematch instead
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Poirier vs. McGregor III is close to being finalized for UFC 264 on July 10

Not signed or fully agreed to yet, but all three parties seem optimistic at this time that it could be finalized as soon as this week
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A public dispute arose over the weekend after Poirier called McGregor out for leaving him and his Good Fight Foundation in the dark regarding a $500,000 donation that was supposed to be made in conjunction with their UFC 257 bout in January. According to Poirier, the donation has not gone through yet and attempts to reach McGregor have gone nowhere.

McGregor and his manager Audie Attar both replied to dispute Poirier’s claim and on Monday Conor unleashed an even more furious response at Poirier including stating that their upcoming UFC 264 trilogy bout “is off.”

McGregor went on to emphasize that his team makes sure to do its due diligence when contributing to charities and threatened that Poirier “will pay with your brain for this attempt at smearing my name.”





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