Sports Handicapping at cappersmall

Sports Handicapping at cappersmall (
-   NFL Football (
-   -   The Alliance of American Football league (

wayne1218 02-09-2019 08:15 AM

The Alliance of American Football league
Just when you thought it was time to pretend to enjoy basketball for the next three months: We have more football!

The Alliance of American Football league gets started this Saturday night on CBS to kick off a 10 week regular season featuring eight teams that resemble throwback Backyard Sports create-a-team options:

Arizona Hotshots
Atlanta Legends
Birmingham Iron
Memphis Express
Orlando Apollos
Salt Lake Stallions
San Antonio Commanders
San Diego Fleet

The league features a number of new rules that seem to be designed around increasing the pace of play and eliminating kicking:

Extra point kicks are gone, so every touchdown will be followed by a two-point conversion.

Kickoffs are also gone. Instead, teams will start with the ball at their own 25-yard line.

Onside kicks will be replaced by the option to attempt a fourth-and-10 at the team’s own 35-yard line.

The play clock will be 30 seconds compared to the NFL’s usual 40-second clock. The are also no television timeouts and reportedly 60% fewer commercials.

The idea that these modified rules could lead to more offense looks good so far, as the league’s four preseason games produced at least 44 points in every contest with an average of 51 points.

The Arizona Hotshots are the opening favorites in the AAF’s inaugural season.

It’s going to take more than a few weeks of action before we have any meaningful amount of statistics for this brand-new league, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t an edge to be found.

wayne1218 02-09-2019 08:18 AM

Power Rankings and Team Notes
Depth charts are anything but certain entering Week 1. Still, we can learn a lot about each respective team based by focusing on their coaching staff and quarterback.

Below are my subjective preseason power rankings that are heavily weighted by each coaching staff’s track record of somewhat-recent success along with quarterback play:

1. Salt Lake Stallions
The Stallions will turn to longtime coach Dennis Erickson as their leader. Erickson has local ties after serving as the Utah running backs, offensive coordinator and assistant head coach from 2013-2016.

Erickson managed to lead top-40 scoring offenses in three of his five seasons as Arizona State’s head coach from 2007-2011, although none of his teams at Utah managed to crack even the top-50 units.

Offensive coordinator Tim Lappano bounced around the NFL as an offensive assistant for skill position players for about a decade, but most-recently worked as the wide receiver coach at George State from 2014-2016.

Defensive coordinator Donnie Henderson most recently worked as the Bills defensive backs coach from 2013-2016.

Josh Woodrum possesses surprising athleticism. His three-cone time of 6.74 seconds is the fifth-fastest time by a quarterback at the NFL combine since 2006 and is on par with someone like Danny Amendola (6.81).

The former Liberty quarterback posted a 61-30 touchdown/interception ratio and chipped in an additional 16 scores on the ground during his four collegiate seasons.

Woodrum spent time with the Giants, Colts, Bears, Bills and Ravens from 2016-2018, ultimately completing a respectable 37-of-55 passes (67%) for 442 yards (8.04 Y/A) with three touchdowns and one interception to go along with another 55 yards and two scores on the ground in seven preseason appearances.

Longtime NFL backups Matt Asiata and Branden Oliver are expected to work behind Joel Bouagnon, who combines three-down size (6-foot-1 and 230-pounds) with solid college production (3,280 total yards and 34 TDs in 43 games at Northern Illinois) to potentially help make up for his lack of breakaway speed (4.7-second 40-yard dash).

The wide receiver room is fairly strong thanks to the presence of former Nebraska No. 1 receiver Kenny Bell, athletic-freak Jordan Leslie (86th-percentile SPARQ-x score) along with potential Antwaan Randle El doppelganger De’Mornay Pierson-El.

wayne1218 02-09-2019 08:19 AM

2. San Antonio Commanders
The Commanders are led by Mike Riley, who served as the Chargers head coach from 1999-2001 before spending 2003-2014 in the same role with Oregon State

Riley was most recently tabbed to replace Nebraska-coaching legend Bo Pelini. This process failed pretty miserably, as Riley compiled a 19-19 record from 2015-2017 and ranked 42nd, 79th and 84th in scoring offense.

Offensive coordinator Matt Troxel has spent most of his recent years at Oregon State and Idaho State.

Defensive coordinator Jim Grobe (66-years old) served as the Wake Forest head coach from 2001-2013 and most recently led the 2016 Baylor Bears to a respectable 7-6 record.

Dustin Vaughan will start under center and was the fourth pick of the AAF’s quarterback draft. He was magnificent in college at West Texas A&M, leading all Division II quarterbacks in passing yards (5,401) and touchdowns (53) as a senior in 2013.

Optimism around Vaughan seems to usually center around his size (6-foot-5 and 235-pounds) and strong leadership ability.

Still, he underwhelmed in the NFL from 2014-2017 with the Cowboys, Bills, Steelers and Ravens, completing just 71-of-135 passes (53%) for 682 yards (5.05 Y/A) with just one touchdown, two interceptions and five-scoreless rushing yards in preseason action.

Ex-Chargers backup Kenneth Farrow is expected to start at running back. Former-Titans backup David Cobb could also see plenty of work in what was the league’s second-most run-heavy offense in the preseason.

Former Houston quarterback Greg Ward Jr. will get his chance to compete as a receiver. He’s expected to be joined by undersized gadget Josh Stewart as well as former high school basketball star MeKale McKay (6-foot-4 and 207-pounds).

wayne1218 02-09-2019 08:20 AM

3. Arizona Hotshots
Head coach Rick Neuheisel led UCLA, Colorado and Washington over the years and served as the Baltimore Ravens offensive coordinator in 2007.

It’s tough to take much away from Neuheisel’s lone season in the NFL, as he was forced to work with a brutal trio of Kyle Boller, aging Steve McNair (RIP) and Troy Smith.

The problem is things also weren’t exactly great at UCLA during Neuheisel’s final coaching stretch from 2008-2011, as he never ranked higher than 88th in scoring offense and had a top-85 scoring defense just once.

Hugh Freeze was supposed to be the offensive coordinator, but he left the job in December to work as Liberty University’s new head head coach.

Defensive coordinator Nick Aliotti spent most of his coaching career as the Oregon Ducks defensive coordinator from 1999-2013. The defense is led by 2014 Bednarik winner Scooby Wright.

Jhurell Pressley is expected to start at running back. He never quite broke through in the NFL, but the 89th-percentile SPARQ-x athlete is a twitchy athlete that averaged an impressive 7.1 yards per touch and scored 36 touchdowns in 49 games at New Mexico.

Former Eagles receiver Josh Huff and Buccaneers receiver Freddie Martino headline a competent wide receiver group.

Quarterback Trevor Knight earned some preseason playing time with the Arizona Cardinals in 2017, but he’s best known for getting beaten out by Baker Mayfield at Oklahoma.

Knight hasn’t completed 60% of his passes at any of his last three stops with the Cardinals, Sooners and Aggies. However, he rushed for 10 touchdowns in his final 11 starts at Texas A&M and possesses super-saiyan athleticism (via

wayne1218 02-09-2019 08:20 AM

4. Birmingham Iron
The Iron are led by head coach Tim Lewis, who was a first-round pick back in 1983 and played four seasons as a cornerback with the Packers.

Lewis held coaching jobs in the secondary for the Panthers, Seahawks, Falcons and 49ers from 2007-2015. He helped engineer top-six scoring defenses in each of his first two years as the Steelers defensive coordinator from 2000-2001, but failed to crack the top-12 units 2002-2006 with the Steelers and Giants.

Offensive coordinator Steve Logan helped establish East Carolina’s football program from 1992-2002 before working as a coordinator for multiple NFL Europe franchises and Boston College.

Logan has just four years of NFL experience, as he served as the Bucs running back coach from 2009-2011 under Raheem Morris and later as the quarterback coach for the 2015 49ers under Jim Tomsula.

Former Alabama star quarterback Blake Sims is on the roster, but Luis Perez is expected to start under center.

Perez doesn’t have Sims’ athleticism, but he absolutely obliterated any-and-every defense in his path for Division II Texas A&M-Commerce in 2017.
Overall, Perez completed 421-of-596 passes (71%) for 4,999 yards (8.4 Y/A) and 46 touchdowns as a senior on his way to winning the D-2 National Championship and player-of-the-year honors.

The 24-year-old quarterback spent the 2018 preseason with the Rams, but threw for just 43-scoreless yards on 15 attempts with an interception during Game 4 of the preseason. Perez was the fifth-overall pick in the AAF quarterback draft.

The wide receiver group is set up marginally well with former fourth-round pick Quinton Patton expected to join field-stretcher Tobais Palmer and potentially former Colts backup Quan Bray in 3-WR sets.

The big name you’ll recognize on the Iron is their starting running back: Trent Richardson. The former Alabama-star-turned-NFL-bust was last seen getting placed on the CFL’s suspended list in May, 2018.

Richardson allegedly weight a somewhat slim 229 pounds. If he’s ever going to regain his elite collegiate form, it might as well be on a team from Alabama.

wayne1218 02-09-2019 08:21 AM

5. San Diego Fleet
The father of the Greatest Show on Turf will take his first coaching job since 2011. Still, the recent version of Mike Martz hasn’t been quite so prolific, as he wasn’t able to engineer a top-15 scoring offense from 2006-2011 while working as the offensive coordinator for the Lions, 49ers and Bears.

Offensive coordinator Mike DeBord has worked all over the midwest since starting coaching in 1982 and was Martz’s tight ends coach during his stint with the Bears.

Defensive coordinator Larry Marmie (76-years-old) was the Rams defensive coordinator under Martz from 2004-2005, but was last seen as a “senior defensive assistant” with the Buccaneers from 2014-2015.

The Fleet would probably have much better championship odds if No. 1 overall quarterback selection Josh Johnson didn’t perform so well with the Redskins during the end of the 2018 season. They’re now expected to roll with former Arizona State signal caller Mike Bercovici.

Bercovici is undersized (6-foot-0 and 206-pounds) and posted a brutal 1-7 touchdown/interception ratio in seven preseason games from 2016-2017.
Still, he posted a much more respectable 42-13 ratio during his two seasons as a starter at Arizona State. There’s plenty of talent here as far as arm strength is concerned …

… but it remains to be seen if Martz and company will be able to reign in Bercovici’s often-questionable decision making.

The offense appears poised to utilize a ‘boom and zoom’ committee with scat back Ja’Quan Gardner (5-foot-7 and -206-pounds) and power back Terrell Watson (6-foot-1 and 243-pounds).

Francis Owusu is the clear-cut guy to watch at wide receiver. The 6-foot-2 and 221-pound receiver doesn’t possess a huge track record of success on the football field, but his 87th-percentile SPARQ-x score could make him Bercovici’s go-to deep threat.

wayne1218 02-09-2019 08:22 AM

6. Orlando Apollos
The head ball coach is BACK. Steve Spurrier is running things for the Appollos and has employed former-Oregon assistant David Reaves as the quarterback coach.

Spurrier’s Fun ‘n’ Gun offense helped him dominate the SEC at Florida from 1990-2001. Still, he couldn’t quite build a top-20 scoring offense with the Redskins from 2002-2003, and South Carolina never boasted even a top-30 scoring offense under Spurrier’s tutelage from 2005-2015.

The preseason performance from the offense was fairly brutal despite the victory, as long-time NFL and Spurrier assistant-turned-defensive coordinator Bob Sanders helped engineer a week-high three interceptions.

We’ll see how long Spurrier decides to stick with starting quarterback Garrett Gilbert, who looks the part, but threw three career passes in the NFL and posted a 49-45 touchdown/interception ratio in 47 games at SMU and Texas while offering mediocre mobility.

The backfield doesn’t appear to have a clear-cut workhorse entering Week 1, as former Chiefs’ scat-back Akeem Hunt (5-foot-10 and 183-pounds) is currently projected to work as the starter.

It looks like the strong point of the Apollos offense could be their talent pool at wide receiver. Former Vikings backup Charles Johnson is expected to join ex-Jets backup Jalin Marshall and one of theoretical field-stretchers Donteea Dye or Ishmael Hyman in 3-WR sets.

wayne1218 02-09-2019 08:23 AM

7. Atlanta Legends
Ex-Vikings head coach Brad Childress abruptly left his job as the Legends head coach less than a month ago on January 9.

Kevin Coyle will now work as the head coach. He’s had defensive coordinator stints with Holy Cross, Syracuse, Maryland and Fresco State as well as the Miami Dolphins.

Coyle’s defenses with the Dolphins ranked seventh, eighth, 20th and 19th in PPG allowed from 2012-2015.

You’ve heard of the offensive coordinator: Michael Vick, who was last seen working as both a coaching intern with the Chiefs in 2017 and since as an NFL analyst.

Life-long Phil and Chris Simms fans can keep rooting for the family in the form of Matt Simms, who is expected to start under center.
Simms was atrocious (48.7% completion rate, 4.4 adjusted yards per attempt) during his four NFL appearances, and he never started a professional game.

Things were remarkably still awful in college, as Simms finished his career at Louisville and Tennessee with just 1,818 yards, eight touchdowns and nine interceptions.

It’s almost like Simms isn’t a good quarterback … but keeps getting chances because of his last name. I mean, the Jets probably should’ve cut him on the spot after this throw.

Simms might not have the longest leash in the world, as former-Georgia quarterback and SEC career touchdown leader Aaron Murray is the backup and was selected with the No. 2 overall pick in the league’s quarterback draft.
Perhaps Denard Robinson will find a way to make an impact as both a quarterback and running back, but former Notre Dame back Tarean Folston is expected to draw most of the run-game work.

The receiving core doesn’t appear to be overly talented, as 3-WR sets are expected to consist of under-sized field-stretcher Montay Crockett, former Appalachian State piece Malachi Jones and 6-foot-3 and 210-pound Seantavius Jones, who had a cup of coffee with the Saints from 2014-2015.

wayne1218 02-09-2019 08:23 AM

8. Memphis Express
There’s no shortage of defensive expertise on the Memphis coaching staff, as head coach Mike Singletary is joined by former Jets and Bills defensive coordinator Dennis Thurman.

Still, neither proved to be particularly successful as a coach despite their respective exploits as a player in the NFL. Overall, Thurman and Singletary combined to lead just one defense ranked inside of the league’s top-15 scoring units in their six seasons as an NFL defensive coordinator or head coach.

The Express averaged a week-low 4.5 yards per play in the preseason after Air Raid-minded offensive coordinator Hal Humme left the team in November.
Memphis has already made some questionable personnel decisions, releasing their first-round quarterback Troy Cook in favor of well-known bust Christian Hackenberg, who has never completed even 60% of his passes in college or during the NFL preseason.

Hackenberg’s No. 1 target appears to be former Fairmount State University turned Arena League receiver Fabian Guerra. This is a decent indicator about the depth at receiver in Memphis.

Zac Stacy is positioned to work as the Express’ bell-cow back. He managed to score eight total touchdowns as a rookie with the Rams in 2013, but was last seen averaging just 2.9 yards per carry with the Jets in 2015.

wayne1218 02-09-2019 08:29 AM

Saturday 8:00 p.m. ET: Atlanta at Orlando (-4.5)
I’m not sold on Steve Spurrier and Garrett Gilbert in Orlando, but I’m even less sold on Mike Vick and Matt Simms in Atlanta after their head coach quit less than a month ago.

The Pick: Orlando -4.5

Saturday 8:00 p.m. ET: San Diego at San Antonio (-5.5)
Five-and-a-half points is a lot for any team that we know virtually nothing about. San Diego would be much better off with Josh Johnson under center, but betting against Mike Martz in the league’s only indoor stadium still just seems wrong.

The Pick: San Diego +5.5

Sunday 4:00 p.m. ET: Memphis at Birmingham (PK)
Excuse me for having no faith in a team quarterbacked by Christian Hackenberg that also lost their offensive coordinator within the last three months. There’s an outside chance Luis Perez is the best quarterback in this league.

The Pick: Birmingham PK

Sunday 8:00 p.m. ET: Salt Lake at Arizona (-5)
When your No. 1-ranked team is five-point dogs against anybody, you gotta take the points. Arizona would’ve been my top-ranked team if Hugh Freeze was still involved, but now I’ll ride with Josh Woodrum and company.

The Pick: Salt Lake +5

wayne1218 02-09-2019 08:29 AM

Atlanta Legends @ Orlando Apollos, Sat. 8:00 PM EST, CBS

Legends vs. Apollos pick:
The first game on our list features the biggest spread of the weekend. The Atlanta Legends head to Orlando to take on the Apollos, a team being led by college football legend Steve Spurrier. The Legends are coached by Kevin Coyle, who took over when Brad Childress stepped down from his post.

What the Futures Market Says
According to the futures market, these teams are in the same neighborhood. Both clubs have +500 odds to win the league championship. That being the case, why is the spread so much greater than a field goal for two teams who don’t have a game under their belts as of yet? For a short answer, signs have emerged that Atlanta isn’t a squad that’s ready to burst out of the gates.

Coaches and Personnel
Childress stepping aside wasn’t the only change to Atlanta’s coaching staff. Michael Vick – yes, that Michael Vick – was originally on board as offensive coordinator, but he’s also now out. While Coyle has an impressive coaching resume, that’s a lot of upheaval for a team to deal with prior to its first game.

Orlando could be one of the more entertaining clubs in the league, and we can point to the presence of Spurrier as the reason for that. Garrett Gilbert is expected to be behind center, and he’ll have weapons such as Akeem Hunt and Brian Tyms to help him out. Aaron Murray is the expected starter for the Legends, with Denard Robinson in the backfield.

The Verdict
Such a big spread in a new league makes us a little antsy, but we can say the same about the rash of changes in Atlanta. We’re going to need to take a wait-and-see approach on the Legends. For game one, we like the Apollos to pick up the win and cover.

wayne1218 02-09-2019 08:30 AM

San Diego Fleet @ San Antonio Commanders, Sat. 8:00 PM EST, CBS

Fleet vs. Commanders pick:
Next up is a contest featuring a Fleet squad led by Mike Martz facing off with a Commanders team for which Mike Riley will be roaming the sidelines. This game is tied for the highest projected Over/Under of the weekend, and it looks like there’s plenty of talent on both sides to boot.

What the Futures Market Says
There’s a +500 difference in odds to win the title for these two teams. The visitors check in at +1000, while the hosts are deemed a +500 shot to win it all. The spread for this one is much tighter at 2.5 points, which seems more in line for a game between two teams which we can’t be certain what to expect from.

Coaches and Personnel
NFL buffs will remember Martz as one of the architects of the Greatest Show on Turf at the turn of the century when the then St. Louis Rams were lighting up the league. Naturally, that bolsters optimism that the Fleet will be one of the more productive offensive teams in the new league. Riley has spent time in both the NFL and college, most recently on the staff at Oregon State.

The Fleet initially had the rights to Josh Johnson, but he was plucked up by the NFL’s Washington Redskins. Mike Bercovici now has the keys to the offense, and he’ll have targets such as Kameron Kelly and Gavin Escobar at his disposal. Dustin Vaughan is the starter for the Commanders, with the top offensive options including Kenneth Farrow II and Mekale McKay.

The Verdict
There has been some buzz that San Antonio looks like one of the better teams in the league. However, we must keep in mind that there’s a big difference between practice and executing in games that count. We’ll look for San Diego to surprise us and walk away with the road victory.

wayne1218 02-09-2019 08:31 AM

Memphis Express @ Birmingham Iron, Sun. 4:00 PM EST, CBSSN

Express vs. Iron pick:
The lone Sunday afternoon game will see the Mike Singletary-led Express head to Birmingham to take on the Iron, a club coached by Tim Lewis. Both men have NFL coaching experience on their resumes, while Singletary is a Hall of Famer and legendary part of the famed Chicago Bears defense of the 1980s.

What the Futures Market Says
These clubs have matching odds of +1000 to be celebrating when the final whistle blows after the league championship game. That places them at the bottom of the barrel in the futures market, as all clubs with the exception of the Fleet have more of a chance to make some noise as far as the oddsmakers are concerned.

Coaches and Personnel
Singletary had a brief but memorable stint as the head coach of the San Francisco 49ers. His fiery play in the field has translated into his coaching career. That being the case, the Express could be one of the more hard-hitting teams in the league as the season moves along.

This will be the first head coaching gig for Lewis. Included on his resume is time spent as the defensive coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers and New York Giants. Signs point to Christian Hackenberg as the starter for Memphis, while it will be Blake Sims or Luis Perez behind center for the Iron. Notable skill position players include Memphis RB Zac Stacy and Birmingham RB Trent Richardson.

The Verdict
The respective resumes of the coaches in these two tilts suggest we could be in for a defensive-oriented affair. The fact that this contest has the lowest projected total of the weekend provides further confirmation of that theory. We’ll take the Express to pull off the road upset in what could be a slugfest.

wayne1218 02-09-2019 08:31 AM

Salt Lake Stallions @ Arizona Hotshots, 8:00 PM EST, NFLN

Stallions vs. Hotshots pick:
It looks like the best has been saved for last, at least as far as signs from the futures market are concerned, that is. The Stallions head to Arizona to take on the Hotshots, a meeting of the two teams who are favored to win the inaugural league championship.

What the Futures Market Says
Salt Lake stands at +400 to win it all, while Arizona has odds of +250. It’s safe to say the oddsmakers like what the two clubs have constructed thus far. One of the interesting tidbits about the AAF is that teams are constructed with an eye toward the clubs having dibs on the best regional talent around them. That has left the Stallions and Hotshots with positive marks on the talent front thus far.

Coaches and Personnel
Dennis Erickson is the man in charge for Salt Lake. He has been a head coach at both the NFL and college levels, but he’s best remembered for the pair of national titles he won with the Miami Hurricanes. For Arizona, Rick Neuheisel leads the way. He has been plying his wares for CBS and CBSSN as a college football analyst in recent years, and he has a number of collegiate head coaching jobs on his resume.

On the talent front, the Stallions have B.J. Daniels at signal caller and wideouts including Kaelin Clay and Kenny Bell. For the Hotshots, Neuheisel has his choice of Trevor Knight and John Wolford at QB, while skill position players include RB Jhurrell Pressley.

The Verdict
he background of both head coaches suggests these two squads should be well-prepared, and the futures market has christened these two teams as the best in the league before the first whistle blows. This game is tied for the highest projected Over/Under of the week at 53 points, so there could be some fireworks to boot.

It’s a toss-up on paper, but the hosts have been deemed a 3.5-point favorite by the oddsmakers. The offensive potential of the Hotshots has us leaning that way as well, and we’ll look for the hosts to get the job done and cover.

wayne1218 02-09-2019 08:37 AM

My Week 1 Plays





[112] ORLANDO APOLLOS +½ (B+6½)
[113] SAN DIEGO FLEET +9 (B+6½)

[116] BIRMINGHAM IRON +4 (B+7)
[117] SALT LAKE STALLIONS +10½ (B+7)

Good Luck!

T100 02-09-2019 11:44 AM

any info on the locations of these games? ie; stadiums ? or other venues.
what about officiating? nfl trained ? or other? college officials maybe.

was thinking the overs would be the plays, is why Im asking.

wayne1218 02-09-2019 11:54 AM

Not sure T but as you can see in post 1 the league wants scoring

Bigtiger 02-09-2019 12:02 PM

Thanks for posting!

wayne1218 02-09-2019 12:26 PM

Could be some good football. They have the backing of major networks in CBS and NFL and games are on prime time.

Most teams also have a coach we all know and players we are all familiar with too. I will be watching tonight to see how it goes. The quicker pace will be good

T100 02-09-2019 03:25 PM

Pinny totals for these games today have already jumped about 2-3 points in the last few hours.

cman 02-09-2019 03:27 PM

I love all sports....

but I do not watch basketball in June/July

I do not play golf in December

I prefer Baseball in May going forward, I do not care for it in November

I hope this league does something special to make us watch


T100 02-09-2019 03:31 PM

12 week season with a championship game april 26th or so. they are smart enough not to infringe on mlb.

Alliance of American Football

cook county capper 02-10-2019 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by wayne1218 (Post 8360248)
[B]My Week 1 Plays

[112] ORLANDO APOLLOS +½ (B+6½)
[113] SAN DIEGO FLEET +9 (B+6½)

"I tied the 1st teaser in AAF history"


Salt Lake and Arizona should be a good game.
Wish St Louis got a team.

Have a good Sunday Wayne, enjoy the day!

themrducks 02-10-2019 05:59 PM

Good info Wayne

No Nothings 02-10-2019 07:01 PM

New Football Lg?
Man this is extensive and good info for this Lg. I 2 of the games on CBS sports and they were both blowouts . I must say players looked like they were paling hard and wanted to be there. More than you can say about some NBA players. So I was impressed with the new Lg and the games played. I must say I found it entertaining and I will watch it.
What does everyone else think?

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:13 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Resources saved on this page: MySQL 23.08%